and, you know, there have been big cases near boston and long island. >> hinojosa: right, but most of these people think, "well, again, that is a family that came from a particular country, and then they brought that pers." and they're probably thinking, "i don't know if i would ever be able to see that, or if even..." you know, there might be some issues around that one, right? >> hinojosa: absolutely. you know, and in our book, in that slave next door book, we had a long interview with a woman in connecticut who was talking about how she came to suddenly realize that this wonderful servant her neighbor had was actually enslaved. >> hinojosa: and who... like, paint that picture. what... this was... >> well, you know, it's like they'd go for dinner, and this person would... this young man would be so subservient, i mean, would just bring things on a pillow, and it was just fantastic, such a great cook. >> hinojosa: and this is, like, a white family that... >> a white family in a very upper middle class kind of neighborhood who then brought in a woman to mate with him, right? the young